Well, are there ineffective teachers? I'm sure there
must be. I've heard stories of ineffective teachers. And I certainly
don't think there should be even one ineffective teacher in any school.
And it's the job of the administration, the job of the principal
primarily, to make sure that no ineffective teacher ever gets tenure.
Once they get tenure, all that means is -- it doesn't mean they have a
lifetime job. It doesn't mean they get paid for breathing. It means that
they have a right to due process. If, after getting tenure, the
principal says, I want to fire you, they have to have evidence. They
have to have a hearing before an impartial administrator.
That really is not such a burdensome thing. But it's very clear that
this is not the key problem in American education, because the lowest
performance is not in union districts. The highest performance in
America is Massachusetts, Connecticut and New Jersey. These are three
states that are all union states.
They have very strong collective bargaining agreements and the
highest-performing states. The weakest performance is in the states that
have no collective bargaining and where there's a lot of poverty. I
think it's really important in your discussions about education that you
recognize that the most -- the biggest single correlate and, very
likely, I would say the cause of low performance is not teachers or
union contracts. It's poverty and racial isolation.
-- PBS interview with Diane Ravitch
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